WSBK » Laverty: 2013 last big year for WSBK?

"Next year is an extremely important one for both WSBK and MotoGP riders as 2014 could see the strongest riders placed in the top class and the rest left behind" - Eugene Laverty.

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Silver Bullet - Unregistered

November 05, 2012 12:17 PM


& if Biaggi did somehow have 43 engine changes at $2mil, it just reinforces my point about the WSBK rules being spot on. There were certainly plenty of WSBK race winners that didnt have the luxury of 43 engines, yet they were able to beat Max regularly.

If it's true, it also supports the case for keeping the rules as they are & not go closer to STK rules. In stock form the Aprilia has no chance vs the BMW & ZX10. Same with the R1, RC8R, MV, CBR, etc. The freedom to race modify the engines allows them to all be competitive at the same level. If KTM decided to spend the same as Aprilia, they would also run up front ... but would still save vs running MotoGP.


November 05, 2012 1:11 PM

"How many engine changes Biaggi had & what that cost Aprilia - the title winning SBK bike - vs Gresini - a team that came close to winning, erm nothing - is largely irrelevant."

Of course it is, that is what it costs for a GP bike and is clear that if Biaggis costs the same or as appears more then it isn't a production bike is it?

We don't know how many engines were used in the other bikes, just that Ten Kate used quite e few, sorry refreshed quite a few.
As I said if you introduce a limitation rule for the other production bike races in the series why not WSB. Simple lap times would increase by a huge margin.

Silver Bullet - Unregistered

November 05, 2012 3:54 PM

@ RSMick

So you think the spend on winning races & a production title is the same value as a similar spend to roll around in MotoGP for a whole season hoping for others to drop out & give you a shot at 1 or 2 podiums at best?

I'll guarantee that Aprilia got many times more return for spending that money in WSBK, so the ROI makes the spend a smart business decision.

& that is crux of the issue. A $5mil spend can be a bargain for a factory that can generate $50mil worth of return. However, the WSBK rules allow a privateer team to race on a bike they've developed themselves - for $1-2mil & still be more competitive than Gresini is in MotoGP.

Compare these WSBK budgets to F1 where $50mil a back of the grid spend. It's all relative to the return, & WSBK isnt broke, so it doesnt need to be fixed.
MotoGP on the other hand ...


November 05, 2012 5:16 PM
Last Edited 1195 days ago

Well Silv chum, how do you guarantee that? because the sports bike market is dead with 1000's almost none existent only the BMW getting fair results but not 50m and they spent 10m a year way more than GP.

WSB is broke grids are down from what they alocate 36, the teams get no travel expenses. TV coverage is down crowds are lowest ever.
What you quote is what you hope and not actual, that is why Infront bought the 7% of IMS that flamini did not give them and handed it over to Dorna because it was losing money.
Good racing does not necessarily bring good rate of return, I would say that San Carlos got a better return than Aprilia did.
And the last paragraph is as you say totally irrelevant.


November 08, 2012 10:31 AM

"the strongest riders migrating to MotoGP."

Really? I don't see anybody in this years field who shows clear potential to compete with the leaders in MotoGP. Consider the likes of Biaggi and Checa, MotoGP has beens doing so well in WSBK should tell you that there is a significant gap between the leaders in MotoGP and the leaders in WSBK.

craig2933 - Unregistered

December 07, 2012 4:48 PM

i have got to totally agree with eugene , dorna will totaly spoil wsbk , biaggi retired at the exact right moment.. dorna will spoil it for the riders , and certainly for the fans !! no more paddock passes guys and girls !!!!!

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