WSBK » Superstock class to be phased out?

The Superstock 1000 and 600 classes could be dropped from 2014 to allow the Superbike class to assume new 'stock-inspired' regulations.

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motofan - Unregistered

January 07, 2013 8:41 AM

Dorna have been here for 5 minutes and already the rumour mill is turning.

Removing the superstock classes is a bad idea, they've so much action and act as an awesome feeder class for sbk and ssk.

Bringing in a 250cc class? Daft idea, plain daft.

Sounds like they're trying to lessen world superbike to try and make MotoGP seem bigger rather than actually looking to fix their f... ups

Buddy - Unregistered

January 07, 2013 8:57 AM

Left to Dorna WSBK series will be the global club racing championship of Superbikes with SuperStock 1000 tec rules, Supersport with SuperStock 600 tec rules and something for 250 4 strokes. RIP. As someone who fondly remembers the WSB mega races of say 1996 - 2001 HTF did all this go so wrong.

Stavros - Unregistered

January 07, 2013 9:38 AM

Good move, long overdue. The reason we have such a small WSBK grid now is that the factory bikes in particular are so tricked out they might as well be prototypes. I like WSBK BECAUSE it's supposed to be production based, but the reality has been a long way removed from that for quite some time.

And there is just no need for WSBK to be so bleeding edge, the road bikes themselves are super fast as is. beef up the suspension and engine sure, but there is just no need for gazillion dollar aftermarket electronics packages and technicians. IMO if the bike comes off the showroom floor with TC then it should be allowed to use the STOCK setup, but all aftermarket electronic packages and software should be banned. I would also like to see success ballast applied to all bikes, not just the Ducati.

Superstock is really a second tier feeder class, so maybe all that's needed is a name change rather than getting rid of it lock stock and barrel. Just call it B grade or something.


January 07, 2013 9:54 AM
Last Edited 1132 days ago

Buddy "Left to Dorna WSBK series will be the global club racing"
Mick Doohan 1990 "WSB is just a world club race"
Thats what it basically started out as, the original format was great.

Absolutely Stavros, I would imagine the biggest time gain between the stock and SSP/SBK classes are the tyres becuase don't the stockers have to run on road tyres? SSP is supposed to but if you read the regs (available to all you realise they only have to be marked for road use.
Seems ridiculas that SBK's can use GP electornics, suspension and other bits, they are even allowed to use electronic suspension banned in GP.
Too many classes taking funds from a small pool, with having to pay their own travel and for tyres (rich teams can afford more) no wonder entries are dismally low in both classes, we have not seen the entry for stockers yet.


January 07, 2013 9:58 AM

Buddy "As someone who fondly remembers the WSB mega races of say 1996 - 2001 HTF did all this go so wrong. "

Flamini declared war on Dorna in 2001, what ever happened to his never ending threats of court action?

Boo - Unregistered

January 07, 2013 10:08 AM

I'm very torn on this, if I'm honest. Something needs to be done to boost grid numbers, but I hope Dorna aren't going to dumb down WSBK too much just for the purpose of elevating its MotoGP interests.

Furthermore, you have to wonder whether WSBK's reputation/calibre will suffer by going 'backwards' to stock specification. Could you imagine any MotoGP riders like Biaggi/Melandri/Checa going to WSBK if the difference between the series grow into a chasm? It won't do their career reps much of a favour.

From the other side, will the likes of Sykes/Rea/Laverty want to stick around if winning in WSBK is perceived to be less prestigious than it was?

A stock-type grid would probably elevate grid numbers, but what type of rider/team would it end up attracting?

Deano - Unregistered

January 07, 2013 10:25 AM

Well, that didn't take long!
It would seem that having failed completely to re-vitalise MotoGP and leaving us with two races in one (but haven't Moto2 & 3 been great?), Dorna now hope that by dumbing down WSB to a ridiculous level they can remove the threat it has posed for several years to tired old MotoGP.
Why get rid of the Superstock classes, which provide good racing in their own right?
What is needed is a global standard - for WSB, WSS and Superstock - to reduce the need for manufacturers to make different specs of the same machine.
Dorna have shown they don't know what they are doing with MotoGP: let's not allow them to mess up WSB as well!


January 07, 2013 10:31 AM
Last Edited 1132 days ago

Boo, I was at the very first round at Donnington in the paddock where some of the bikes being raced were actually road bikes the day before, particular the RC30's. We had travelled from Brands as the meeting was mixed with the transatlantic trophy. The riders you had then were the same as now, riders on the way up and riders on the way down. Plus Ron Haslam raced as well. In those days there was no SBK as such in the national championship it was Superstock (which made up a chunk of the SBK entries) and F1 and there was an F1 world championship which was less spec than the WSB of today.
Nobody moaned when WSB killed off F1 as F1 seemed too expensive for little gains, then again there wasn't any internet forums.


January 07, 2013 10:37 AM

For me, I don't care what the absolute speed of the bike is, any current production 1000 cc sports bike is plenty fast enough to go racing. I just want to see good grid numbers and the best riders. FI and MotoGP have shown us that the more cutting edge and sophisticated a machine becomes, the more they depend on the men with laptops in the pits and the less they depend on the skill and courage of the pilot. Anything which makes the machines cheaper and less complicated seems like a step in the right direction to me so I'm not against these proposals.

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