WSBK » Superstock class to be phased out?


The Superstock 1000 and 600 classes could be dropped from 2014 to allow the Superbike class to assume new 'stock-inspired' regulations.

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TalentFan

January 07, 2013 2:19 PM

The thing is - fans are sticking their heads in the sand and saying, I want, I want (but I ain't paying for it). The way Racing is now it is unsustainable - the costs of WSBK and MotoGp racing are way too high, and the return in terms of viewers and value for sponsors simply isn't worth it. The manufacturer's themselves helped create the problems by making it so you HAVE to have uber-expensive Tech and Boffins and bikes make of last-all-weekend unobtainium. Now the global economy is strapped for cash all this excess cannot continue.
Its simple - would fans rather have less tech, lower lap times, full grids and great racing, or empty grids with a couple of factory bikes lapping very fast and very lonely with acres of empty tarmac?
If it can't be paid for, you can't have it. Welcome to the real world!

Noitall - Unregistered

January 07, 2013 2:21 PM

Good idea in principal stock rules with slicks no need for special supsension, tuning or electronics.
Should allow all tyre manufacturers to compete with trye prices capped and tyres available to all. Remember Spanish Stock Extreme motorcycles on Michelins Dunlops are quicker than full blown Superbikes. They must not allow manufacturers to homologate special racing motorcycles for the road as this will defeat the object. The sale price should be capped at say 20k or less.

TalentFan

January 07, 2013 2:27 PM

400's and 750's might be good capacity sizes for racing classes, but seeing as the current trends don't support those capacities on the street, then it'd be more expensive, not less for those displacements to be adopted (and madness for 'Production' based Racing).

But... there are some well-developed 450 singles for Dirt-Racing - engines that would lend themselves well to being put in road-race chassis perhaps?

Looking at Irish road-racing, the Ryan Farquhar invented 650 twins proved to be a great middleweight racing bike developed around the humble Kawasaki ER-6. Not slow either!

I'm not saying these are answers, just pointing out that there are viable alternative powerplants to a 250 'Moto3' type single race-bike as a junior support class in a possible future WSBK / WSS programme maybe?

pp916 - Unregistered

January 07, 2013 2:35 PM

@ talentfan....

No complaints about Moto3 from a racing perspective although I wish they had more cylinders to lose the horrible drone!
But Moto3 is a GP class, WSB is billed as based on streetbikes so there's no place for GP bikes in that paddock unless they are so unimaginative that they are just going to copy the BSB format minus SS1000 & ss600 then pad the event out with filler class racing.
And with regard to electronic aids - the streetbikes that the racebikes are based on have sophisticated electronics, reactive suspension and ABS in many cases as standard, how is that reconciled if the race bike has to closely resemble the bike they're based on?
Just like now and for eons the bikes ought to be a silhouette of their streetbike brothers with realistic restrictions on modifications, just as happens in saloon car racing in its various global forms.
Want to look at money savings? Consider the paddock, OTT hospitality etc....is it really all necessary or would some of that budget b

TalentFan

January 07, 2013 2:38 PM

@ Shamarone

Maybe its not quite so ridiculous? The 250 is making a comeback in these austere times, not just here in the UK, but also in the growing markets where the small bike is still king. India, Indonesia, China etc. are far more valuable growth markets, and they buys masses of scooters and small capacity bikes, & they are becoming more affluent consumers.

Instead of just saying that Uncle Carmelo is a loon, how about you come up with a solution (or at least a few solid ideas) that hold water of your own and enlighten us eh?

shamarone

January 07, 2013 2:49 PM

re: "Could you imagine any MotoGP riders like Biaggi/Melandri/Checa going to WSBK if the difference between the series grow into a chasm?"

ps: don't forget the name of the man who begat the hemorrhaging... alex barros. and now you see more clearly the method to his madness. stopping the EXODUS OF TALENT from his series is yet another key mission objectives.

on this all depends (yoda voice).

TalentFan

January 07, 2013 2:50 PM

@ pp916 I think the hospitality etc. is unlikely to change - the team and series sponsors want to impress the people they are courting, and that tends to mean 'being a bit flash'. Also, the wealthy are the only demographic permanently immune to economic depression - if anything their buying power means they get more bang for their buck and make even more money while the rest of us worry how to make ends meet. Which makes them the perfect customer, and you need a little bling and some posh hospitality to get the moneyed to spend it with you instead of somewhere else.
As for the Tech - well a lot of the expense is in bespoke ECU systems and the Tech Geeks to alter a myriad of settings and maps to perfect the bike for every inch of track. I'm all for getting rid of that!

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