WSBK » Motorland Aragon - Free practice times (1)


Full free practice times (1) from the second round of the 2013 World Superbike Championship at Motorland Aragon, Spain.

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TalentFan

April 12, 2013 12:51 PM

Early days, but good to see that Chas Davies is showing good pace on the Beemer, and keeping up his record of being fast on everything he's ever thrown a leg over.

Getting top kit has been a long time coming (overdue IMO). CD is solid and unflappable, mentally tough and is fast. I reckon he could well be worrying the hell out of Melandri before too long.

Jon

April 12, 2013 12:52 PM

You know what's impressive?
Barrier did a 2m 1.07s this morning on the BMW Superstock bike.

That's probably 35bhp less, road tyres, standard wheels, brakes, frame, subframe, fork externals and far more basic electronics.

And I bet the STK bike is worth probably £30,00 compared to the £150,000+ superbike. A fifth of the price, only 2% slower on a lap.

THAT's the direction SBK needs- far lower costs, less aids, a true return to production racing.

Think Jon - Unregistered

April 12, 2013 2:43 PM

@ Jon

& where were all the other bikes?
What times did he STK Aprilia, Suzuki, Honda, etc do?

WSBK rules work BECAUSE they allow all manufacturers to compete at the same level with some tuning allowances.
Otherwise you'd see one of two scenarios.
a- just 3 dominant manufacturers in a championship, or b- manufacturers producing crazy costing limited edition road going Superbike spec machines.

TalentFan

April 12, 2013 5:33 PM

Agree with Jon that costs need to be controlled,& that Stockers are plenty quick enough and need more input from the rider - which is what fans and the racing need.

But - that doesn't have to mean the scenario that 'Think Jon' put forward - after all change the number from 3 to 2 & he just described MotoGP - and look at the toys THEY get to play with.

OTOH - look at BSB. Their rules cut costs and its a fast and highly competitive series with many teams and marques in with a shout of a win, and a shot at the title. 2011 & 2012 were very good seasons, and there's a good chance that 2013 will be as well.

In any case - Dorna are bound to introduce measures to cut costs in WSBK anyway - the only worry is what a hash they make of it. By involving the Mfr's in the process they've already screwed up IMO - Dorna need the cahones to take control and dictate policy to Honda et al to avoid the mistakes made with MGP (IMO).

hrc2627 - Unregistered

April 13, 2013 2:01 AM

@ jon

Excellent point s

Also race tires, aftermarket brakes, and suspension would probably shave a fair bit of time off barriers time.

Road bikes as they are, are properly quick and sbk needs to head towards more stock rules like bsb without the manufacturers making one offs like the rvf750, yzfr7, and 916sp/996r models.

So in the end we end up with better street bikes with sorted chassis, suspension, brakes and electronics.

Think Jon - Unregistered

April 13, 2013 8:05 AM

@ Talent Fan

Go look at Session 1 Group A STK1000 BSB from yesterday ... 11 ZX10R's in the top 12 ...
That is what happens when you have single dominant stock bike.

Manufacturers have different agendas when selling road bikes, so chasing track pace is not always the most important. As fast as the Kawa is at the moment, the CBR is a better more comfy bike when riding on the road. Your scenario would see no Honda on the grid with a chance.

As I said. Think Talent Fan

TalentFan

April 13, 2013 8:42 AM

@ Think Jon / Think TalentFan

Yes - seems that the kwak dominates stock BSB.

But the main BSB field is still MUCH simpler Tech and cheaper by far than WSBK, yet has managed to set it up so that several mfrs are right in there (Kwak, Suz, Honda, BMW, Honda, maybe Ducati which haven't had the luck to show their pace really yet).

So - it CAN be done, cos BSB are already doing it, and proved it last season.

Anyhow - cost cutting & tech reduction in WSBK is INEVITABLE and on the agenda from Dorna. My concern is not that this will happen, but that Dorna will ferk it right up like they've managed with MotoGP.

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