WSBK » Rea 'really struggled' with aggressive Honda


'It's hard to put a finger on our problems but I feel that the character of our engine is quite aggressive' - Jonathan Rea

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teamgreenzx6

November 28, 2013 6:34 PM

Its a big shame HRC don't make any effort with WSBK and the Ten kate guys. If all the rubbish spouted in MotoGP about electronic devolpment being good for future road bikes then why hasn't it treacled down to world superbike yet? Feel sorry for Rea and Haslam having to suffer on an outdated and poorly supported bike . They'll be lucky to beat suzuki next year.

Nick636

November 29, 2013 9:31 AM

@ teamgreenzx6

Matt2 is right. From the start of this season they were running MotoGP derived Electronics pack which JR HATED!

The problem with this bike is the engine. Out of the box the CBR1000 is pretty much the weakest Litre bike (making it an incredible road tool with it's great chassis). But in WSBK they need to tune it very aggressively, making it very hit and miss.

Denman

November 29, 2013 10:41 AM

Were Dani Pedrosa to be put on this bike Honda would be pouring resources into it. Johnny and Leon are not receiving fair treatment from the big H and it is to big H's shame this is so obvious.
Johnny has wasted his talent and possibly any chance he had of being a world champion.

Denman

November 29, 2013 10:41 AM

Were Dani Pedrosa to be put on this bike Honda would be pouring resources into it. Johnny and Leon are not receiving fair treatment from the big H and it is to big H's shame this is so obvious.
Johnny has wasted his talent and possibly any chance he had of being a world champion.

Cubikrube

November 29, 2013 10:47 AM

This is a new bike people...the comments about outdated are outdated :)

Let's see how this shakes down over the next couple of tests before making a judgement, Honda have been guilty of not supporting the effort in the past but i am under the impression there is a lot more to come from them.

I honestly have JR down for the title next season with this new bike, might need a year to bed in like the Kwak? Bear in mind the bike has been woefully underpowered in comparison to it's rivals in recent years....now it's about the engine being too aggressive.... let's just watch and see, might surprise some...hope so

Nick636

November 29, 2013 11:44 AM

@ Cubikrube

First off, where do you get that this bike is new?

Secondly the bike IS underpowered, they then play with settings to boost other aspects which make sharpen things like throttle response. Hence, Johnny saying the bike feels very aggressive. Could also be anything from the bike's breathing, electronics or even sprocket settings.

They need a MAJOR revamp of that engine.

I throw my bet in the hat and say JOHNNY WILL NEVER WIN THE TITLE ON A HONDA.

V4Poweeeer

November 29, 2013 12:07 PM
Last Edited 217 days ago

@Cubikrube

The new honda sp model only has brembo brakes and ohlins suspension and revised valves I believe is what I read about the new model.

With the nature of wsbk this new model is no improvement as it really isnt a new model for ten kate. However Honda (I mean MSMA) have actually have given ten kate some factory backing by scaling back the outright power of the competition by introducing an engine limit.

The only thing that has really changed is the rules. The chassis is well balanced, the engine is reliable, the electronics are improving all the time and the new engine limit will reduce or level the power limit.

Next season it shouldn't be a surprise if both blades are front runners and one rider is in title contention.

Suzuki will be even closer to the front but the lack or non-existence of proven factory electronics from Suzuki may hold them back though.

shamarone

December 01, 2013 3:57 PM
Last Edited 220 days ago

re: "It's hard to put a finger on our problems but I feel that the character of our engine is quite aggressive"

yeah well the bike that caught on FIRE might have something to do with it. good grief, besides the name on the tin, can't tell me Honda has anything to do with this effort. kit lighting off...? really...?

in a way their lack of support is WORSE than Suzuki's. Hamamatsu's legitimately cash strapped. BIG RED...? not so much. it's not like Ron and Gerrit are t@ssers. far from it. they've attracted great sponsorship and have won championships, SEVERAL actually.

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