WSBK » Giugliano: I am constantly over the limit


Davide Giugliano admits he must improve his own riding if he is to take advantage of his evident speed and the evolving Ducati 1199 Panigale.

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LLarry

August 01, 2014 5:14 PM

grantrd: I think the days of the twin are numbered.... Even in the Evo class it struggles against the fours ...
Maybe Ducati should try something else... Most of the others have...


I seem to remember the exact same thing said in 2002 when the 996 was coming to the end of it's life. Then came the 999, 1098 & 1198 and numerous championship wins followed.

I agree about the monocoque though. A Panigale motor in a trellis frame would be winning races.

shamarone

September 07, 2014 12:00 AM

re: "Brand equaity based on racing wins using the 90degree desmo.

FISTPUMP...!!!

re: Ducati's fantastic race history"

FISTPUMP...!!!

re: "it is just a maker of expensive, pretty road bikes."

sorry for the delay, is there a point in here somewhere...?

grantrd

August 01, 2014 4:17 PM

That monocoque frame was a dud in motogp and it's a dud in the panigale... I think the days of the twin are numbered.... Even in the Evo class it struggles against the fours ...
Maybe Ducati should try something else... Most of the others have...

grantrd

August 01, 2014 5:32 PM
Last Edited 125 days ago

Honda were forced to build a twin because the rules quite simply didn't suit four cylinders. They did , they won straight away and proved their point. I like twins and I own an immaculate sp1 which will only grow in value as it gets older ( it will never be sold though, as it represents everything I love about Honda ) the point I'm making is that Ducati can't always have the rules written to suit their marketing of a twin. Ktm have been building twins and selling them without wsbk. They can still build twins and sell them but maybe they should try race something different. That's what everyone else had to do every time the rules were tweaked to make the twins competitive again, so in my opinion it's run it's course. Sbk doesn't exist so Ducati can't market their twin, they must adapt and survive like everyone else....

shamarone

August 01, 2014 6:09 PM

re: "They can still build twins and sell them but maybe they should try something different."

ahhh but that blade cuts double. considering the marker laid down by HRC, one is EQUALLY free to ask...

well why didn't the LOT try "something different" and just build twins...?

right then, who's the individual who's gone and set the MULTI as the standard everybody should aspire to, 'cause I'd like to meet him.

wait, belay my last, i just realized i already knew the answer to that question before i even asked it. :(

A: Honda. my bad.

Matt2

August 01, 2014 3:16 PM

Giugliano has always been a wild child on a bike but I dont really blame him for the crashes. Some of it comes from that Panigale losing on the straights = compensated with more cornerspeed and especially for the poor starts that bike gets. There problem is the bike, it doesent matter what series WSBK, BSB the Pannigale is terrible starter. Fan of Giugliano, it was demorelising to watch him lose all those places in Laguna and having to push so hard to get to that first group again. Hopefully they have that starting sorted with the latest test and Giugliano and Davies can fight for the victories.

RaceRoad

August 03, 2014 6:42 PM

for me this may last forever. i was tyred seing duc winning first with 250cc extra and later with 200cc extra. and i always thought why they would need the extra cc's?! because if a factory was stuggling to seal the title it were suz,yam,kawa, and a little less honda. take all the titles from the 4L and they still have way less titles than ducati.
we all know monocoque is bad (maybe it can be evolved) but it never really worked in MotoGP and it isn't working in wsbk eighter.



LastOfTheLateBreakers

August 03, 2014 12:56 PM

Strong self-assessment here. Both bike and rider well and truly capable of podium finishes and should be front runners in WSBK. With more maturity and development, combination of bike and rider will realise it's potential. Ducati has a long history of dominating WSBK by developing race winning machines, putting the right people around them and on them to win.

Joeski

August 01, 2014 6:05 PM

I seem to remember the exact same thing said in 2002 when the 996 was coming to the end of it's life. Then came the 999, 1098 & 1198 and numerous championship wins followed.
I have to agree that I am not a fan of the twin but I can appreciate its place in the motorcycle family....Ducati may need to change up...although a bunch of fans would probably be p****d if Ducati went with a new winning formula!! that's not a twin!!
The rules keep changing to accommodate the twins... hence the 1098, 1198, 1199... In the end however, it is interesting to see different types of bikes with different solutions win races... if not, we may as well make it a one make series!.. how about an all Ducati series!!?? not that interesting?? then do not complain!! just appreciate the racing.
I seem to remember when it was an all Ducati series people complained, now we have so much variety and people are still complaining...lol

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