Following all the Sepang controversy, the MotoGP Permanent Bureau met the riders on Thursday before Valencia and said 'changes will be made to prevent this from happening again'. Do you know what that meant?

Herve Poncharal:
We are always looking at how to improve things in every department. So is everything working well? Yes. Can we make it better? Yes. There was some controversy. I think this was the first time that Race Direction, FIM and Dorna were faced with such a difficult and important case to judge. Therefore they've decided they should look and see if they can make things better in future.
What do you think could be improved with hindsight?

Herve Poncharal:
For me personally the 'penalty' was, I would say, fair. It was not too much, but it was something. Rossi wouldn't have needed to start at the back of the grid if he didn't also have a penalty point from Misano. The rules, about accumulating penalty points, apply to everyone.

The only thing I believe - and I don't know what might happen because I'm not directly involved - is that if in future we can check evidence and make decisions during the race it would be much better.

For me, this is the only thing we can say we would like to see possibly better, although it will not always be possible.

But for example in football - or rugby or tennis - sometimes there is a goal that is accepted because the referee says so. Or a red card, a yellow card, a penalty. But then later when you re-watch everything, maybe you think it was not a goal, or a red card, yellow card, penalty.

But the referee made his decision and the result of the match, 1-0 or whatever, is not changed afterwards.

My point is that what helped all of the polemic to grow was that no final decision was made at Sepang. I mean there was a decision after the race, subject to appeal, which was rejected, and then this CAS [Court of Arbitration for Sport] story began. So we didn't even know if Rossi was going to start last or not until the Thursday at Valencia.

All of that uncertainty fuelled the polemic and made things too hot, too heavy, too violent. I've seen the pictures being sent and things on the internet and honestly it's too much.

I don't want to take one side or the other, but when you see the things being said about Marc and Jorge having a 'pact', or photoshopping them together like a love story - this is a lack of respect.

For sure, everybody will try to see if we can handle this kind of situation better in future, but it will always be very delicate. You know, when it is a 'normal' rider it is easy, but when it is 46... He is so big, he is so famous, he is so powerful.
Was it correct to cancel the Thursday press conference or an overreaction?

Herve Poncharal:
The general opinion of the media that I've spoken to has been, 'We were not angry, but we didn't understand why the pre-event press conference was cancelled. But finally it was a good decision'. And I believe it was a good decision. I completely support the decision, although when I first heard I was also surprised.

At the end of the day if you would have put - especially if you remember the atmosphere at that time - Valentino next to Marc, next to Jorge, next to Dani... And the journalists' job - I'm not blaming them - would have been to ask 'Vale, what do you think about what Marc just said? Marc, what do you have to say in reply? Jorge, what about you?'

We know all of this started with the pre-event press conference in Malaysia [when Rossi accused Marquez of assisting Lorenzo at Phillip Island]. So I think it was a good decision because still the media had access to all the riders, each speaking in their own press conferences on Thursday, but not side-by-side. And I think it worked quite well because we had a great atmosphere in the paddock all weekend.

With 110,000 people for the race, if something happens - that's a lot of people to control. It could have been really bad. You remember what happened in some football matches in the past? People were worried and this is why I think it was the right decision.
So the safety of the fans was the main motivation for cancelling the press conference?

Herve Poncharal:
Yes, the safety of the fans above everything and also the image of the sport. You know, in some countries you see people punching each other in parliament! You never know what might have happened during the press conference - Spanish and Italian journalists, the riders even if the atmosphere got too hot. It's not the image we want to put across.
But you've been involved in racing a long time Herve, you've seen big riders falling out with each other. Was this really any different to things in the past? Was it really unique?

Herve Poncharal:
Our championship is growing by the way it is followed by the media and the fans. For sure social media is something we didn't have in the past. So people are much more connected. People can react a lot quicker and answer each other. This year the championship was amazing, with the title going to the last race, which helped everything to be bigger. And of course one of the guys involved is this story [Rossi] is the icon. He is our emperor.

So I don't remember something like this before, because we didn't have the number of people following us, social media wasn't that important and we didn't have a championship this exciting for many years. The last time was probably between Nicky and Vale [in 2006] and that was a different time.

I'm sad about what happened, and it's not good to experience something like this, but on the other hand it shows that MotoGP has so many people following now. That is positive. Because there are not many events - sports, concerts, or anything - which have 110,000 people at the same place at the same time, as happened for the race at Valencia.

I don't think the Rolling Stones have 110,000 people at one concert, and I'm a big fan of the Rolling Stones!

But when you have fame, glory, money - always one way or another you have clashes and polemic. It is part pf the game. And this is also what a lot of people want.
Many people had been saying there is not enough rivalry in MotoGP any more...

Herve Poncharal:
Absolutely. And Formula One was never as big as when Prost and Senna were fighting each other. It was incredible. You remember the whole Suzuka story? It was so big between Senna and Prost at that time. Even if you look at rock and roll; if everything was dull there would be no rockstars.
Some people say part of the problem is that the riders involved have too much power. It must be difficult to manage riders that are as big as Rossi, Marquez or Lorenzo...

Herve Poncharal:
I haven't had the luck, because I don't have the budget, to face this problem! I don't think in the near future I can have a Marquez, a Lorenzo or a Rossi in my team.

Having said that - it was different - but for example we had Dovi and Cal together. They were rivals, they were fast, they were world champions and both quite famous. I don't say we are better than the others, but we managed to keep everything as a sport and there was a healthy atmosphere.
How did you do that? What sort of things do you have to be careful about?

Herve Poncharal:
I don't want to sound like a teacher, so if you ask me this question I'm going to say something and maybe Lin [Jarvis, Yamaha], or Livio [Suppo, Honda] will think 'who is Herve to say that? What does he know?'
Okay, let me rephrase the question, everyone has their own different ways of managing riders, so what has been your personal approach within Tech 3?

Herve Poncharal:
Let me start by saying I have so much respect for the riders. I'm still amazed by what they are doing. Throughout the race on Sunday the hairs on my arms were standing up because what they do is extraordinary. They are heroes. They are supermen. This is clear and very important.

But to do what they are doing, and to have the life they are having, they also need the federation, promoter, teams, sponsors and factories. They can't do it by themselves. This is an individual sport but there are a lot of people working very hard to enable them to show their talent.

I think, from my point of view, they are sometimes too spoilt. I think at some stage we should - in a nice way, not necessarily in an authoritative way - just explain to them: 'You are here because you are the best. You are here because you are amazing. You are a superman. But still, to have the possibility to show your super talent, there are a lot of things and people that you need behind you.'

So my way of seeing things - and it's difficult to explain without hurting some people's pride - is to respect the riders, but also to ask them to respect my team. It's easier for me because my riders are not megastars like Valentino Rossi or Marc Marquez. But I'm trying to have my team like a family. A team-family.

I think my characteristic - I don't say if it is better or not - is 'talk always, to everyone'. A team is a group and I'm happy in the evening when my riders are eating here in the hospitality together. Talking together. Not one rider with his entourage at one table and the other with his entourage at the opposite end of the room. Then there is no link.

I tell my riders, 'Do what you have to do, get the best results you can and of course your team-mate is the first rider you want to beat, but please think as a team'. I was really proud because our guys finished fifth [Espargaro] and sixth [Smith] in the Valencia race - they've been fighting all year long and it was always clean.

For sure, Pol wanted to beat Bradley big time. Bradley beat Pol many times this year and Pol was not happy. I'm not saying either of them is happy to be behind the other, and I wouldn't want them to be.

But I think if we sometimes show authority and say 'hey, we cannot do that' - it's like parents with their children. If you don't show some limit, there is no limit.

It's good to have superstars because they are like the locomotive 'pulling' the championship - Vale, Marc, Jorge and all these guys. And some friction between them, as we talked about earlier, is part of making the championship big. But sometimes it's good to say 'Okay, don't go too far'.

That's all I think. That's just how I do things here.
Would you say that both Lorenzo and Rossi deserved the title?

Herve Poncharal:
First of all Yamaha did an incredible season. They have dominated the championship in a way that hasn't happened for many years.

Marquez came and won in his first year, then came back and won again last year with 13 wins. In winter testing for this season Marquez was again very fast and everyone thought it was going to be another era of domination, like in the past with Mick Doohan or Valentino Rossi.

Everybody thought it was going to be difficult for Yamaha. Qatar was one thing, when Marquez had his problem on the first lap, but then race after race a Yamaha was at the front. It was amazing.

So the first thing I have to say is incredible job by Yamaha. Big, big congratulations for the engineers to have beaten that [Honda] package in terms of lap time and also consistency in the race.

Jorge for me was clearly the fastest guy. But the fastest guy doesn't always win and he almost lost the championship, because to be a world champion you need to handle everything. That means be very fast over one lap, be fast throughout the race - which he has been showing - but also deal with pressure and external factors like the weather.

Maybe this was his 'weak point', but clearly in terms of speed and if you look at how many laps he led, how many pole positions, how many fastest laps and the way he was riding when he won those four races in a row... He'd just go. I remember the victory in the Czech Republic also, wow. So for me he deserves this title.

But having said that, I think Vale did something amazing, honestly. He's 36 and a half. To follow Marquez, Lorenzo - even Pedrosa and Iannone sometimes - being 10 or 15 years older than them is incredible.

I'm almost 60. I know how I was when I was 20. Then how I was when I was 30-35. And I know the difference! To do what he is doing at his age. To have the possibility to fight to the last race for the title - where does he find the motivation to work, to take the risk, to push, to be so motivated? I don't know.

This is, for me, maybe the best ever season for Vale, even if he didn't win. Almost everybody thought after his accident at Mugello in 2010, then the tough Ducati times and seeing new guys like Jorge and Marquez coming in, 'Vale is maybe the greatest, but his time has passed'.

What he's done this year is amazing. So I say Jorge deserved the title, but for me they are almost equal. The two of them deserved the title. But taking into account history and circumstances, it was an incredible performance from Vale and I think he's got to be proud of what he's done this year.
And Marquez?

Herve Poncharal:
Big disappointment! For me, he is still the most exciting guy to watch. He is the type of rider I love to watch because everything is too much. But this is what we love.

Jorge is very fast, I think Marquez is as fast as Jorge, but the way they develop that performance is so different. With Jorge, if you didn't have a stopwatch you'd think he was warming up the tyres! But when you see Marc, you say 'f**k!' Every single corner he looks like he is going to crash. You think nobody in the world can go faster and this is so exciting.

I love to watch Jorge riding because he is so clean and technical. But you have to be a connoisseur to appreciate it. But Marc, anybody - even if they are 75 years old and have never ridden on two-wheels - you look at the action on TV, especially with the incredible job Dorna is doing in slow motion, and 'wow!' It's a show. For that, he is our best ambassador for MotoGP because this guy is a volcano! Unbelievable. So I love to watch Marc and I think he has brought a lot to our sport.

Okay, in a way it is good not to have the same guy winning every year. For sure, as he says, he has learnt from his mistakes. Actually I'm not so sure because after some of his crashes this year he'd say 'I've learnt' and the next race or a few races later he'd crash again!

I think the riders on the final championship podium, one-two-three, were clearly the best, the fastest and most exciting guys to watch.
How about your riders, Bradley and Pol?

Herve Poncharal:
This year Bradley did something that not a lot of people believed he could do. He did much better than even his own expectations, I believe, although maybe he won't tell you! Clearly we trusted him very much because we re-signed him last year, but Bradley exceeded our expectations and did much better than Yamaha and most of the media expected.

Bradley was one of the surprises of the season; to see him regularly beating his team-mate, being the only rider other than Vale to score points in every single race and only finishing outside of the top eight once. Compare that to 2014 when he had five crashes in one weekend, in Germany.

So this is a new Bradley. He surprised us a lot and I believe what I'm going to tell you, which is the best is yet to come. Because Bradley is so involved, so motivated and working so hard. He now understands that he's got to work with the team and the engineers.
Is that where the 'new' Bradley came from?

Herve Poncharal:
Yes. Trusting the people around him more. Not being too nervous. Staying calm. I was really amazed in Malaysia because Friday was, not a disaster, but he was a long way behind - 14th - but he turned things around and ended up fourth in the race, his best dry result of the season.

Bradley never panicked after the Friday. Instead he always kept his cool, believed and trusted himself and the team to find some solutions to improve and be ready for the race. It was a similar situation at Phillip Island and Valencia.

Also the total amount of points he scored, 181, is impressive. So I'm very pleased and very glad we re-signed him.
And Pol?

Herve Poncharal:
Pol was a disappointment for himself, firstly. Also for a lot of people who thought he would follow what Marc Marquez has done. For us too. For Yamaha. For many small reasons he couldn't deliver. But I still have a lot of faith in his potential. I still believe that next year could be really strong for him.

Valencia was probably his best weekend and it's always good to have your best weekend at the last race. It helps to spend the winter with a positive frame of mind. Pol needed a good result because he is also so much involved, so focussed and he was so down some times.

I have to admit, sometimes even I didn't know what to say - and you know I love to talk. Sometimes I was even avoiding contact with his eyes in the pits and it was hard to know what to tell him after a race or session when he was just so down.

So I'm pleased he had a good last weekend. Also, right or wrong, he is so positive that the Michelin tyre characteristic will suit him better next year. I never want to think of a miracle, because if you hope too much on one thing sometimes you are disappointed. So we will see.

But anyway, the fact the last race was his best race and that he is looking forward to the Michelin challenge, these are two positive things to help him work hard during the winter and arrive strong for the first test at Sepang.

I think next year is going to be a tough fight between the two Tech 3 riders. Maybe like another 2012 with Cal and Dovi. I would love it! Sometimes it is scary to see your two guys so close, but I think they are going to push each other big time.

Of course, next year you also have the new rules: Change of tyre manufacturer, one ECU, 22 litres for everyone, no more soft compound for some guys.
What will those changes mean for your team, your riders?

Herve Poncharal:
A lot. Because more and more we see that grid positon is crucial. So to go through to Qualifying 2 directly is very important. This year it was sometimes difficult and we've been suffering with the fact that we did not have the softer rear tyre. Suffering in speed and also risk, because FP3 is when you need to be in the top ten.

That is on Saturday morning, when sometimes the temperature is not so high. The compounds we have are always good for a race distance, but sometimes they were let's say a bit too hard, especially when you have to compete with guys on softer tyres. So you take risks. I don't want to say it will be easy next year, but it should be easier.

It should also be better for the fans because I think it should be closer. Because excluding the first part of the championship when Dani was injured, the results were monopolised by 'three plus one' - sometimes Dovi, then Dovi faded and Dani arrived.

The 'fab four' - as you might say - okay we love it, but we would also love to have someone else join in, as Iannone did in Australia. That was great. Hopefully Bradley, Pol, Cal, Petrucci, Redding... I don't need to give all the names, can be up there sometimes.

Right now, as we saw in the last race, forgetting where Vale started from, the top four were in another world. We did really well to finish fifth and sixth, but more than position it's about the difference in race pace.

Also, watch the helicopter view of Vale off the grid at Valencia and how he rode around the Open riders who didn't have the best launch control and electronics. Straight line, throttle open. There is not much a rider can do. It really showed the difference in the electronics.

So for sure Yamaha and Honda are going to go back from their present electronic level with the new ECU next year. And now they are a bit worried, but it will reduce some of what we saw at the start in Valencia. It should be closer and make the sport a bit more exciting.
Why is Pol so positive about the Michelins?

Herve Poncharal:
First of all Bridgestone have done an incredible job, helped the championship to grow, been very fair with the tyre supply and their quality control was excellent. So there is nothing to say except chapeau to those guys.

Having said that, it looks like the Michelin rear is amazing. And Pol needs rear grip. Especially at circuits where the grip is a bit low that is when, of the top riders, maybe he suffers the most. So he thinks with extra grip on the rear it will help a lot of things in terms of his setting, bike feeling and the way he rides. We will see.
How about for Bradley's style?

Herve Poncharal:
Bradley is a very honest guy always and I think this is important if you want to improve. Bradley was very happy with the Bridgestones and didn't have the same kind of problems as Pol, as you can see from the results. The last time he tested with Michelin during the season was at Aragon. He went out on the Monday morning and crashed.

That was mostly because I think he went too fast, too early. It's just something that can happen. But it was a big crash and he looked really pale when he got back to the pits. I thought it was game over for the day and anyway I didn't want him to take too many risks with four races still to go.

But he said, 'I have to go back out because this is what I'm going to use next year.' He did a lot of laps and ended up with a really good feeling and lap time.
Bradley isn't the only rider that has been caught out testing the Michelin tyres...

Herve Poncharal:
I have every confidence, every trust, in Michelin to give us the tyres at the level we are expecting. Sure Michelin is going to produce Michelin tyres. Michelin will never be a copy of Bridgestone. Like Bridgestone will never be a copy of Dunlop and just like a Honda will always be different to a Yamaha.

When you saw Rossi and Marquez fighting in Sepang - Bradley told me a very interesting remark. He said, 'Yeah, but that when Vale was passing Marquez, I know that the Yamaha was better in that place. And where Marquez was passing Vale, the Honda was better'.

The point is, at the end of the day Honda and Yamaha manage to have almost identical lap times, but do it in a different way.

It's the same story for tyres. Michelin and Bridgestone have their own nature. Their own DNA. They will not be better or worse. They will be different. But I am 100% confident Michelin will develop in the right direction.

Their motivation is incredible. They didn't say anything, but I know their pride was hurt a little by comments some of the riders made in the media about the front tyres. Michelin pushed to be the tyre supplier and they were very happy to come back. They are working very hard because they know Bridgestone set a very high standard, a high level. We need to be careful not to judge too quickly.
Do you know what package you will have from Yamaha next season? Will you have, for example, Lorenzo's championship-winning bike?

Herve Poncharal:
Already we received some new parts - chassis, swingarm - coming from the factory team for the Valencia test. Without giving you too many secrets that Yamaha won't want, a basic explanation is that, yes, the plan is more-or-less that we receive the latest spec Vale and Jorge bikes, from the Valencia race.

Engine wise, we are already very very close to the factory - you could see that in terms of top speed - and next year even more so. Engine design will still be frozen next year, the only difference is that everyone will now have seven instead of five engines.
Will you have the latest seamless gearbox?

Herve Poncharal:
That will be the only real difference in the engine department between us and the factory team - our seamless gearbox will be upshift only, their seamless is up and down.
So you will have the same gearbox as this year?

Herve Poncharal:
There will be some evolution. It is just for cost reasons. Outside of that, the engines will be almost identical.
Will you have the fuel tank at the back like the new factory bike?

Herve Poncharal:
I don't think so. We have super support from Yamaha. I'm very happy with it and we've been repaying the faith Yamaha has in us by finishing as the best satellite team and fourth overall in the teams' championship. Bradley was also the top satellite rider, sixth and ahead of a factory Ducati.

So we are very happy. But one thing is clear. Money runs the world and Yamaha is already spending a lot of money in MotoGP. It's not that they don't want to, but right now with the budget they cannot supply and provide all the support and manpower for four 2016 bikes of the latest spec.

But they still have a lot of Valencia 2015 spec factory material, which is very competitive and good enough for us. So they are going to transfer that to us. If, during the course of the year, we are facing a certain problem that the factory team are not having maybe we will receive some things.

But for the start of the winter tests and first races we can say, without entering too many details, we will have Vale and Jorge's bikes from Valencia. That is fantastic material and we are very happy.
They are clearly fantastic bikes, but is there any concern that those bikes were designed around Bridgestone rather than Michelin tyres?

Herve Poncharal:
We don't know yet what the final Michelin tyres will be. There is still some development ahead before the tyres are decided for even the first race of 2016. So let's wait.

Already with a MotoGP bike nowadays you can play a lot. So some people think you need to put more weight on the front for the Michelins, and we can already do that.

I don't think there will be a massive difference between the 2015 and 2016 Yamaha chassis anyway, when you see the level the Yamaha riders were at this year. I don't think the riders want a revolution. They want to have a very very slight evolution.

A MotoGP race team, now, doesn't develop the bike. This is the factory's job. Our job is to set-up what we have for our specific rider - his body weight, size and way of riding - for the track conditions, the grip, and for the weather. Wet, dry, mixed, cold, hot, windy. This is our job and what we pay our engineers for.

When you have a different brand of tyres our job is the same; to try and adapt everything.
Turning to the Moto2 team Herve, you'll have two rookies next year - Xavi Vierge staying for a full season and Isaac Vinales moving up from Moto3...

Herve Poncharal:
We've spoken a lot about the situation in Moto2 before and everything I've said is still valid, so I won't bore readers by repeating it!

What I can add is that it's clear I can't sign riders from the top five, top eight. No way. Then after that there are some riders who can deliver let's say eighth to tenth-fifteenth places. They think they are as good as the guys winning and if they had the same bike they would win. These guys I don't want because they will say, 'I am tenth, but with a Kalex I would be first'.

Therefore, I've decided to take some young riders who are very happy to join the Moto2 World Championship, very happy to do it with us, have no preconceived ideas and are fresh. Maybe after a year they will be different!
You've had quite a lot of success with riders like that, for example Bradley Smith...

Herve Poncharal:
Yes and this is one of the reasons why I respect and like Bradley very much. The same goes for Sam Lowes. He was always pushing this year, even if he wasn't on a Kalex.

So, our new riders: Xavi has been racing last year's Tech 3 bike in the CEV. They run Dunlop tyres like here. Xavi was fighting for victory in every race with Edgar Pons, son of Sito, who is on a factory Kalex the same as Alex Rins has been riding here.

They have been more or less equal, on a Kalex and Tech 3, and no other rider won a race this season. Usually they were one-two, one-two, one-two. Xavi won six races and Edgar five. But Xavi had a crash in Catalunya, Pons finished every race and Xavi lost the title to Pons by eleven points. Alen Techer also finished third in the championship on a Tech 3. So how come it is competitive there and not here?

Anyway, Xavi is very happy to join us, he trusts the team and he loves the Tech 3 bike. Because every weekend he has been fighting with Pons and Kalex and, as we were saying earlier about Yamaha and Honda, he says 'in some places I am stronger and in others I lose'. He is positive, he is pushing and he is happy. For me it's like... phew!

With Isaac, from the day I began to talk to him - unlike the other guys I spoke to who said 'I'd love to come to your team, but please buy a Kalex' - he was saying 'I'm your man! I'm so excited' and was texting me almost every day asking when we can get started.

So we will have two, not really rookies, because Xavi has done some races for us already. But certainly two very young riders; Xavi was 18 during this season and Isaac recently turned 22.

Also we have hired Antonio Jimenez to be Xavi's crew chief. He was crew chief for Carlos Checa for many years, also when Checa was with us on Dunlop tyres in 2006. He has worked for Showa on suspension, with various riders at Gresini and then this year was with Italtrans for Kallio and then Edgar Pons.

Moto2 remains a tough challenge, but we won't give up. So hopefully young riders without any preconceived negative ideas about the bike, some new items technically, an experienced crew chief and good team spirit will pay off in 2016.

I was happy with Marcel [Schrotter], but Marcel always felt 'I would do much better with a Kalex' and he will ride one next year.
Finally Herve, what are your thoughts on Danny Kent winning the Moto3 title? You clearly believed in him when you signed him for 2013...

Herve Poncharal:
When I signed Danny it was late in 2012 and I was so happy, because I thought he exactly fitted the profile we just spoke about for Moto2. I knew he had great potential. He'd won the last race of 2012, after also winning Motegi, and I was so happy. Young rider, very talented guy. I was very positive.

Unfortunately, for many reasons I don't want to go into, it didn't work. We'd signed a two-year deal because I really believed in him, but by Aragon of the first year I could see he wasn't happy.

I asked him, 'Danny, you want to leave?' He said 'yes'. He said he wanted to go back to Moto3, that he'd moved too early to Moto2 and had unfinished business. So although I could have kept him for another year but I said 'Okay' and ripped up the contract. You need to be happy to perform and he wasn't happy.

So he went back, but the first part of 2014 was difficult and sometimes he was almost out of the points. I thought 'shit, he's not going to make it' but in the second part of the year he was really strong and tried to help Jack Miller win the championship.

Then the first part of this season was amazing. He showed his talent, his class. He's changed a lot. The way he rides has improved, but he was also fast before. It's more about the way he thinks about himself, much more self-confidence. Before he looked very insecure and wouldn't even look at you in the eye. He'd be looking down at his shoes.

He was always waiting for a tow and this year he was watching to make sure no-one was following him. That is an example of the change in Danny.

For sure the second part of this year was a bit more difficult, but I think he fully deserved the title. I'm very happy he won this championship for him, for the UK. It's good to have a British, French and a Spanish champion in the three classes. It shows it's not just Spanish and Italian domination.

Big congratulations for him. I remember a few races like Argentina where he was in a class of his own.

I am happy to have had him with me, but I'm disappointed because we failed big time. I wish him good luck. He's coming back to Moto2 with more experience, maturity and self-confidence. For sure being world champion gives you a lot of confidence. He will have a strong team-mate in Oliveira. He is on the winning bike, so all the lights are green.

We will be fighting with him and hopefully we'll beat him sometimes!
Thank you Herve.

Herve Poncharal:
Thank you.



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